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Offline naturalSelection

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"Do me a favor, move your car" - SWS
« on: June 20, 2016, 08:12:16 AM »
Does anybody else get the parking lot attendant at SWS asking super duper politely for you to park a freakin country mile away from the pier in the seedy, underling lot?

For me, its become a regular occurrence to be asked to relocate from a public parking lot in order to make space for the members of the country club. And every car that has a kayak or gear is approached I've noticed. Not a huge deal, I'm just curious as to how many of us accomidate, and how many of us throw the books and say no?
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Re: "Do me a favor, move your car" - SWS
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2016, 08:31:34 AM »
The lot attendant said the coastal commission deemed that lot and the shoreline/pier a public easement. So its literally a favor to relocate your car as far as I know.

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Re: "Do me a favor, move your car" - SWS
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2016, 08:58:15 AM »
I thought an easement was a right of access or right to pass, not a right to park your car. You have a spot to load and unload then you have to park where they allow you to park. Many divers have been parking there and trashing the bathrooms and generally being a nuisance to the paying members of so long I'm surprised they haven't made it accessible to foot traffic only. But go ahead, "throw the book at them". Let's see if public access to the beach includes kayak launch and free parking. My guess is they will have your car towed when you paddle out and have you escorted off of the property when your start telling them about your rights.

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Re: "Do me a favor, move your car" - SWS
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2016, 09:13:34 AM »
You've got to be kidding right?  ???

PLEASE park in the designated coastal access spots at the hedgerow, or tennis court parking lot, or in the giant public parking garage at the spa.

They let us unload and load right there, give us access to bathrooms, and provide multiple options for parking that are hardly a "country mile away", and definitely aren't "seedy".

if you don't like it, don't dive there.

If you dive there please follow the very simple and totally reasonable rules or you make us all look bad and are IMO jeopardizing access for future divers/kayakers/anglers.

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Re: "Do me a favor, move your car" - SWS
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2016, 09:27:35 AM »
There are a few spots for beach access, and the rest is a private parking lot payed for by the club members.

I've only dove SWS once. But it was a privilege, and felt like they did me a favor being able to use their other parking lot and access.

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Re: "Do me a favor, move your car" - SWS
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2016, 09:36:28 AM »
I don't know what they can do, but I don't want to find out. I really enjoy launching at SWS and I appreciate how polite the resort staff are. Moving my car to the hedgerow takes five minutes, round trip. It's a minor inconvenience that I don't mind at all.

I also don't feel like moving my car is "making space for members." I've seen the top area of that lot double and triple parked in order to leave coastal access spots open. So really it feels more like a consideration for my fellow divers who also want to load/unload in that area.

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Re: "Do me a favor, move your car" - SWS
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2016, 11:03:40 AM »
I would just have to say I agree with the other posts - Use any area with respect.  Besides, do we really want to piss off a bunch of people that have the means to afford multimillion dollar homes that they mostly use as vacation homes?  I've dove there with a friend and we got to use his brother-in-law's house - worth several million and they only use it a couple of times a year.  If they want to make things difficult because we are a bunch of inconsiderate a--h---s, and they will, and have the means to afford fancy lawyers to clog it all up just to make things hard on us.

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Re: "Do me a favor, move your car" - SWS
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2016, 11:50:09 AM »
I think you folks may have assumed my position. I park in the lot they request each time, and am very cooperative. The guy asking is really nice about it. The "seedy parking lot" comment was more of a joke, didn't mean to throw anybody off. But the diver next to me said to the parking lot manager "no this is public parking and I have a right to be here." He didn't move his car. Which made me wonder where people stand. I've gotten the whole bit from others who refuse "nice guys finish last" and "You don't have to move your car".

I don't mind parking elsewhere, the lot attendant even gave me a ride back with his golf cart. But i talked to other people who feel theyre being marginalized and shuffled for the sake of country club members in a public parking lot. I do not feel this way, as I always move when asked. However if it was revealed that this parking lot was actually completely public (and I don't know that it is), would you still move your car?
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Re: "Do me a favor, move your car" - SWS
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2016, 11:50:37 AM »

You've got to be kidding right?  ???

PLEASE park in the designated coastal access spots at the hedgerow, or tennis court parking lot, or in the giant public parking garage at the spa.

They let us unload and load right there, give us access to bathrooms, and provide multiple options for parking that are hardly a "country mile away", and definitely aren't "seedy".

if you don't like it, don't dive there.

If you dive there please follow the very simple and totally reasonable rules or you make us all look bad and are IMO jeopardizing access for future divers/kayakers/anglers.
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Re: "Do me a favor, move your car" - SWS
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2016, 01:44:24 PM »
Yeah, the seedy hedgerow just down the street from the cheap ass $25,000,000.00 houses. We could at least park in a nice neighborhood. I'm always worried that some millionaire will get in the back of my truck and steal my last half gallon of cure care.

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Re: "Do me a favor, move your car" - SWS
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2016, 01:47:41 PM »
I don't know what they can do, but I don't want to find out. I really enjoy launching at SWS and I appreciate how polite the resort staff are. Moving my car to the hedgerow takes five minutes, round trip. It's a minor inconvenience that I don't mind at all.

I also don't feel like moving my car is "making space for members." I've seen the top area of that lot double and triple parked in order to leave coastal access spots open. So really it feels more like a consideration for my fellow divers who also want to load/unload in that area.

I'm with nick and jim on this. Please don't piss off the staff.
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Offline naturalSelection

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Re: "Do me a favor, move your car" - SWS
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2016, 03:04:56 PM »
Just got off the phone with M. Watson, Carmel Coastal Commissions' Coastal Planner. That parking lot is indeed owned privately by Pebble Beach Company, as is all the parking. PBC is currently developing a Public Access Program, and public parking will be clearly designated in their brochure at the entry kiosk. However this has not launched. Legally the general public has roadway access to the beach for pick up/drop off, that is all.

Conclusion: its a privelage to park in the lot in front of the pier, and anywhere on that property for that matter. I'm going to continue to be accommodating with PBC staff and move my car when asked.

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Re: "Do me a favor, move your car" - SWS
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2016, 03:08:54 PM »
Even with the easement if they closed the lot it would be ugly with a bunch of kayakers rolling their gear from the tennis courts.  I hope that wasn't one of the forum members who told the parking or security to pound sand.  If it was please tell me who you are so you can go on my never dive with list.   

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Re: "Do me a favor, move your car" - SWS
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2016, 04:45:59 PM »
PBC is currently developing a Public Access Program, and public parking will be clearly designated in their brochure at the entry kiosk. However this has not launched. Legally the general public has roadway access to the beach for pick up/drop off...

Public access as in no more $10 fee?!?



On a seperate note, the funniest part about the parking lot scenario is that people are showing up to SWS to kayak/dive, both very physically intensive activities by nature, yet walking an extra hundred yards from the parking lot is out of the question.

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Re: "Do me a favor, move your car" - SWS
« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2016, 07:23:29 PM »
PBC is currently developing a Public Access Program, and public parking will be clearly designated in their brochure at the entry kiosk. However this has not launched. Legally the general public has roadway access to the beach for pick up/drop off...

Public access as in no more $10 fee?!?


I don't think that $10 fee will go away, as that is for all of 17-mile drive, not just Pebble Beach.

 

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