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Offline ibettinger

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anyone have a dependable (red) urchin spot?
« on: June 09, 2013, 03:19:33 PM »
I've been searching like crazy this year to find a good, dependable urchin spot. Van Damme is carpeted with purples, but I'll be damned if I can find a good location for red urchins.

I've come across the occasional 2-3 (anchor bay, glass beach), but nothing dependable.

When I dove as a kid (early '90s), the damn things were everywhere and abalone seemed harder to find. Now it's the opposite, abalone are everywhere and the urchins are scarce.

Thanks for any advice guys!

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Ian

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Re: anyone have a dependable (red) urchin spot?
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2013, 06:45:04 PM »
Patricks point in humboldt has many red urchin....
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Re: anyone have a dependable (red) urchin spot?
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2013, 07:58:23 AM »
Is there an edibility difference?

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Re: anyone have a dependable (red) urchin spot?
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2013, 08:48:53 AM »
Is there an edibility difference?

I've eaten both, I think they taste the same, the bigger red ones make for more substantial portion sizes. As for spots, I see them pretty much everywhere up North. Just look in cracks and holes below 20 ft.
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Re: anyone have a dependable (red) urchin spot?
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2013, 10:26:44 AM »
The edible difference bewteen the two is great.  The purples are smaller and hard to get clean.  The reds are bigger, eaiser to clean and the international market favors the big reds.
But dont just get the biggest ones u can find, they will be over mature.  The medium size has the active gonads and will be supper orange compared to dull orange. Commercial divers know this...I can get my 35 limit anytime up in humboldt, the most ive ever taken was 5.  They live 75+ years.  We did a genome project on the purple, its light receptors on its spines are closely related to our eye evolution development...
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Re: anyone have a dependable (red) urchin spot?
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2013, 10:58:32 AM »
The edible difference bewteen the two is great.  The purples are smaller and hard to get clean.  The reds are bigger, eaiser to clean and the international market favors the big reds.
But dont just get the biggest ones u can find, they will be over mature.  The medium size has the active gonads and will be supper orange compared to dull orange. Commercial divers know this...I can get my 35 limit anytime up in humboldt, the most ive ever taken was 5.  They live 75+ years.  We did a genome project on the purple, its light receptors on its spines are closely related to our eye evolution development...

Interesting stuff! 

Question regarding the over mature gonads of the monster urchins - don't the large ones don't go through stages of gravidity like the small/medium ones?

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Re: anyone have a dependable (red) urchin spot?
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2013, 12:45:04 PM »
The edible difference bewteen the two is great.  The purples are smaller and hard to get clean.  The reds are bigger, eaiser to clean and the international market favors the big reds.
But dont just get the biggest ones u can find, they will be over mature.  The medium size has the active gonads and will be supper orange compared to dull orange. Commercial divers know this...I can get my 35 limit anytime up in humboldt, the most ive ever taken was 5.  They live 75+ years.  We did a genome project on the purple, its light receptors on its spines are closely related to our eye evolution development...

Yeah, great info, thanks! I'll definitely try Patrick's point next time I'm that far up.

My experience is also that the purple vs red taste difference isn't huge, but I haven't had purple more than once or twice. The Japanese say that the health of the surrounding kelp beds has a lot to do with the quality.

Anyone have any suggestions in Mendo or farther south? Even south of the bay would be ok by me, I'm based out of Oakland.

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Re: anyone have a dependable (red) urchin spot?
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2013, 12:48:52 PM »
I could have sworn that I pulled a few big bright red (almost pink) out of Point Arena, but once I had them out of the water and at home, they were almost black!

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Re: anyone have a dependable (red) urchin spot?
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2013, 01:25:09 PM »
I saw a bunch of red urchin in South Salt Point this weekend.  They were shallower than normal too, between 15 and 20ft.

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Re: anyone have a dependable (red) urchin spot?
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2013, 02:07:07 PM »
I saw a bunch of red urchin in South Salt Point this weekend.  They were shallower than normal too, between 15 and 20ft.
you can not take urchin with in the salt point SMCA check the regs fin fish and abalone only.

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This area is bounded by the mean high tide line and straight
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38°35.60’N. lat. 123°20.80’W. long. ;
38°35.60’N. lat. 123°21.00’W. long. ;
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38°33.50’N. lat. 123°18.91’W. long. , except that Gerstle Cove
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(A) Boundary
This area lies within the Salt Point State Marine Conservation
Area and is bounded by the mean high tide line and a straight line
connecting the following points:
38° 33.95’N. lat. 123° 19.92’W. long. ; and
38° 33.95’N. lat. 123° 19.76’W. long.
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Re: anyone have a dependable (red) urchin spot?
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2013, 09:26:55 PM »
I hear the Farallones are loaded with 'em...

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Re: anyone have a dependable (red) urchin spot?
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2013, 07:15:50 PM »
Moat Creek has lots of red urchins.
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Re: anyone have a dependable (red) urchin spot?
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2013, 07:20:48 PM »
The edible difference bewteen the two is great.  The purples are smaller and hard to get clean.  The reds are bigger, eaiser to clean and the international market favors the big reds.
But dont just get the biggest ones u can find, they will be over mature.  The medium size has the active gonads and will be supper orange compared to dull orange. Commercial divers know this...I can get my 35 limit anytime up in humboldt, the most ive ever taken was 5.  They live 75+ years.  We did a genome project on the purple, its light receptors on its spines are closely related to our eye evolution development...

Ive had bad ones and good tasting urchin, now I know why.
Thanks for the info Todd.

 

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