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Offline maodiver

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I have a question about this ab iron
« on: December 11, 2012, 03:29:41 PM »
saw this video today



Do you think his ab iron is legal, with regard to the maximum curve allowed (this one has 90 degrees, twice)?

regs say: Abalone irons must be less than 36 inches long, straight or with a curve having a radius of not less than 18 inches, and must not be less than 3/4 inch wide nor less than 1/16 inch thick. All edges must be rounded and free of sharp edges.

I noticed also that it had a nut in the middle...perhaps allowing for collapse?

I know a guy who dives with a T-bar welded to the end of his iron...does the 90 degree bend of the T fit in with your opinion of the spirit of the regs?
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Re: I have a question about this ab iron
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2012, 04:23:25 PM »
He seemed to be very selective and measured every ab before he took it, which I found to be very responsible.  I don't think the "reg's" have a "spirit", but if they did the purpopse would be to prevent unnecessarily cutting ab and killing them, which is most often done by rookies and rock pickers.  So, in as far as the "spirit" of the sport, I think he's right on, as for the reg's, I'm more concerned about waste or poaching than I am method or tool.

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Re: I have a question about this ab iron
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2012, 10:08:49 PM »
Yeah, I think that nut is so it can swivel down and fit in a pack better? Good catch Rob.
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Re: I have a question about this ab iron
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2012, 10:27:27 AM »

What would be better would be a switchblade ab iron!!

I'm in the early design phase on a jack-hammer/ab iron that would help break loose well-cemented rock scallops.

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Re: I have a question about this ab iron
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2012, 11:42:11 AM »
Something like a slide hammer ?
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Re: I have a question about this ab iron
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2012, 08:52:49 PM »
I think it was made to be interchangeable
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Re: I have a question about this ab iron
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2012, 08:54:23 PM »
But the original point remains...how about a 90 degree angle on the handle??  Legal??
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Re: I have a question about this ab iron
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2012, 11:15:42 PM »
i would say no ,by the rules it is not ok
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Re: I have a question about this ab iron
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2012, 01:14:05 AM »
I think the entent of the law is to devolpe a device that is not to damage the Abalone when removing it from the rock.  With that being said if you were to look closely at a National Divers Ab iron the handle is folded for comfort.http://issuu.com/nationaldivers/docs/catalog/33
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Re: I have a question about this ab iron
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2012, 04:53:19 AM »
The handle is not part of the radius. That refers to the curve of the blade. I seriously doubt that it is an illegal ab iron. It was short enough, thick enough, not sharp, and had no radius that I could see. All good!
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Re: I have a question about this ab iron
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2012, 06:12:32 AM »
I think the entent of the law is to devolpe a device that is not to damage the Abalone when removing it from the rock.  With that being said if you were to look closely at a Fremont Divers Ab iron the handle is folded for comfort.http://issuu.com/nationaldivers/docs/catalog/33

Good point.  It has no open angles, but it does have angles greater than the approved radius
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Re: I have a question about this ab iron
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2012, 07:05:23 AM »
Something like a slide hammer ?

Exactly. The handle would be weighted, and for abs, locked.

When I'm after scallops, deep in the cold and dark I find a chopping motion is hard to accurately land.

 

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