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Offline winklecl

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Two vs Three bands
« on: September 16, 2009, 03:19:38 PM »
I'm looking for my first gun and I'm thinking about the JBL 38 special. I see that it comes in two forms: two band on 38 special elite for $168 and three band 38 special northwest for $155 from leisure pro. How useful/essential is that extra band and why would it be less expensive? Are these a good deal? I put the links below in case any1 was interested.

http://www.leisurepro.com/Prod/CategoryID_967/Context_965/Sort_Stock/DescSort_0/JBL4D38E.html?Hit=1

http://www.leisurepro.com/Prod/JBL4D38NW.html?Search=op%3ddtSearch%26Term%3dnorthwest%26SearchFlag%3dall%26AdvSrchSortField%3dRelevance%26DescSort%3d0%26Description%3don%26Hit%3d1

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Re: Two vs Three bands
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2009, 03:27:35 PM »
Get the one with three bands, for a couple of reasons, one more power and two it is nice to have that 3rd band incase one breaks you still have two you can use and get by with, I have the JBL38 special with 3 bands and love it and have taken many fish and some big fish on it just my 2-cents.
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Re: Two vs Three bands
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2009, 06:18:19 PM »
I have a JBL 38 special northwest and a Mako 75. They both have advantages. I think the jbl is faster to load, but the Mako is easier to move around in the water. The JBL fills with water and the Mako does not. These are just a couple things off the top of my head. If you are coming to the club dive and don't have a gun by then, I will let you try mine out.

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Re: Two vs Three bands
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2009, 06:26:43 PM »
It looks like your in Oregon so Im going to guess you will not be at the meet.

Offline JASON HOLLIDAY

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Re: Two vs Three bands
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2009, 07:36:15 PM »
 Not trying to hijack your thread but since its about spear guns. I went by Bamboo reef in Marin today and they have the new Riffe mid handle which is perfectly geared for the north coast. Its a three band gun and I also say the three banders are better like Matt said if one breaks you have 2 to play with. I have a JBL custom and a JBL 2D20 explorer and they are both great but like Rangair said they fill with water and are a little low on the maneuverability scale...Hope this helps
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Re: Two vs Three bands
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2009, 07:48:53 PM »
Rife are great guns but if you want a truly custom north coast gun they don't come any better than a Phill Heran spear gun.
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Re: Two vs Three bands
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2009, 08:27:40 PM »
Or you can build one for yourself, Iam goinf to start one next month Im going for one like thereefgeek
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Re: Two vs Three bands
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2009, 06:41:04 AM »
 It would be nice to build your own. We have a lot of talented people in this club and ive had the pleasure of seeing some of the guns they have made. One of these days I will give it a shot and se if I have some talent....
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Re: Two vs Three bands
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2009, 09:07:49 AM »
I am hopping that one of these very talented guys will make one for me at cost hint hint, give back for building an awesome web site. LOL LOL.
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Re: Two vs Three bands
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2009, 09:39:00 AM »
I think both guns are bad choices.
Buy something like a Mako 75
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Re: Two vs Three bands
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2009, 11:59:35 AM »
Thanks all for the info, you've given me a lot to think about.

Allen I won't be @ the Sept club diving but I'm thinking about trying to make the one in Oct. Thanks for the offer and if I see you there I'll take you up on you offer. Then may be I'll see what Lino is talking about.

Jason ur not hijacking anything, your going above and beyond with research for me. Thanks tons!

As far as building my own, I might have that kind of talent  :dontknow: but I sure don't have the tools right now! I've seen some amazing works of art on this site. Kudos to those with the know-how and resources.
I would LOVE to have a Phil Heran special but even at cost, it would be a while before I could afford it. I'm looking for something in the more immediate future.

Thanks again!

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Re: Two vs Three bands
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2009, 01:11:38 PM »
I probably wouldn't compare JBL rubber to the band material Neptonic sells, but even before I sold that Riffe Comp #0 [that Ferris found on the beach], I only ever used 2 of the bands because 3 bands made it too powerful for up North.  Same with my little bamboo gun: 2X 9/16" bands.  I may make a single 5/8" band for it just to see how it shoots.

Stacy, shoot me an e-mail and I'll send you a PDF of the scaled drawing of that bamboo gun:
http://norcalunderwaterhunters.com/forum/index.php?topic=68.0
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Re: Two vs Three bands
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2009, 02:00:54 PM »
i dont know why lino thinks they are bad guns, but personally i have a JBL 38 special with 3 bands and i hate it.  its too damn heavy.  it seems like its more gun than i need for north coast fish which tend to be rock cod, lings, etc... maybe a tuna or something..lol.. or a huge ling, but little fish we tend to shoot it seems like i could get away with a smaller, lighter gun.

my buddy has a nice light wooden gun and i love using that thing..not sure what it is, but ill find out.  im gonna prolly get a new gun shortly here and i hear mako makes some good ones.
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Re: Two vs Three bands
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2009, 02:19:26 PM »
  it seems like its more gun than i need for north coast fish which tend to be rock cod, lings, etc... maybe a tuna or something..lol.. or a huge ling, but little fish we tend to shoot it seems like i could get away with a smaller, lighter gun.

Maybe you shoot little fish I dont get anything small. LOL just ask my wife  :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7:LOL LOL !!!!!!
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Re: Two vs Three bands
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2009, 02:28:53 PM »
I think both guns are bad choices.
Buy something like a Mako 75

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