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Offline Byers

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hunt for red treasure
« on: March 18, 2011, 12:23:36 PM »
does anyone have the video HUNT FOR RED TREASURE i could buy or borrow, everybody seems to be out or want $30 tax and shipping, was down at Dolphin scuba last week and they have been out for a while, thanks
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Re: hunt for red treasure
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2011, 01:52:27 PM »
Yes I do I even have it autographed pm me your address bob and I will get it mailed out to you monday just return it when done thanks.
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Re: hunt for red treasure
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2011, 03:58:24 PM »
There used to be trading books and videos  on this site,(i didnt do a search), I just read the KING OF SLING, Art Pinders book written by Sheri Daye,if any one wants to borrow it  let me know ,if you have any dive related books or videos you would share with me  thanks,  King of Sling is a  good book ,i read the whole thing in one afternoon,

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Re: hunt for red treasure
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2011, 10:15:40 AM »
I have never seen the movie but those of you that have, what is your thoughts on it?  Just curious.
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Re: hunt for red treasure
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2011, 01:33:33 PM »
does anyone have the video HUNT FOR RED TREASURE i could buy or borrow, everybody seems to be out or want $30 tax and shipping, was down at Dolphin scuba last week and they have been out for a while, thanks

Boycott it. It features and was co-produced by Jack Likins. Mr. Likins stabbed us all in the back when he stood up in favor of the IPA during the NCC MLPA crisis. He is one person to thank for the loss of Fisk Mill, Horseshoe Cove, and Stewart's Point. I know this topic has been done to death, but it's good to remember.

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Re: hunt for red treasure
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2011, 08:05:12 PM »
does anyone have the video HUNT FOR RED TREASURE i could buy or borrow, everybody seems to be out or want $30 tax and shipping, was down at Dolphin scuba last week and they have been out for a while, thanks

Boycott it. It features and was co-produced by Jack Likins. Mr. Likins stabbed us all in the back when he stood up in favor of the IPA during the NCC MLPA crisis. He is one person to thank for the loss of Fisk Mill, Horseshoe Cove, and Stewart's Point. I know this topic has been done to death, but it's good to remember.

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Re: hunt for red treasure
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2011, 03:40:51 PM »
does anyone have the video HUNT FOR RED TREASURE i could buy or borrow, everybody seems to be out or want $30 tax and shipping, was down at Dolphin scuba last week and they have been out for a while, thanks

Boycott it. It features and was co-produced by Jack Likins. Mr. Likins stabbed us all in the back when he stood up in favor of the IPA during the NCC MLPA crisis. He is one person to thank for the loss of Fisk Mill, Horseshoe Cove, and Stewart's Point. I know this topic has been done to death, but it's good to remember.

Thanks, thats good to know.

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Re: hunt for red treasure
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2011, 04:14:29 PM »
Yep. Here's a letter he wrote in favor of keeping Sea Ranch open as opposed to Stewart's Point and the upper half of Salt Point State Park.

http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/pdfs/comments/jl_012108.pdf

This letter is very misleading, implying that the reserve was only to be at Stewart's Point. That of course wasn't the case as anyone who used to dive Horseshoe or Fisk now knows..
He has a home in SR which is why he didn't want a reserve there. He should be shunned by the entire abalone diving community, and nobody should be supporting his self-glorifying movie.

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Re: hunt for red treasure
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2011, 05:15:46 PM »
The faith of HSC and Fisk Mill Cove were sealed long before the NCCRSG ever met at the table! From day one the "Parks" people wanted a reserve starting from south Fisk Mill Cove, just above stump beach to Rocky Point; and there was nothing I or Jack anyone from the public were going to or say that of would persuaded the "Parks folks and the BRTF from planting a SMR on and in the heart of the Sonoma Coast.

The BRTF was going to do and did what ever the "Parks" wanted to do in the NCC-MLPAI process. NRDC went wild with it and ran the SMR boundary line up Black's Point. The "Parks" folks did not oppose NRDC option. Did I object? 100% right I did but it was not going to matter because the BRTF were never going to listen to what fishermen wanted, let alone abalone divers.

The NCC MLPAI process was a "Parks" and NRDC and Ocean Conservancy dog and pony show from the get go because the BRTF wanted maximum protection and maximum coverage in SMR's.  However, The "Parks" folk's did suggest that the southern boundary line of Stewart's Point SMR be move from just above the upper end of Stump Beach to it's present location that it is today and that was the best I could get out of it!

The 2XA package for the Sonoma Coast was never going to fly due to the Parks desire's. So does anybody wonder why I write about the police state of mind set now?
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Re: hunt for red treasure
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2011, 06:13:19 PM »
Still, though, Likins jumped ship and joined their side for whatever reason. His actions gave the false impression that there was cross support from ab divers for the IPA. And regardless of whether or not that made any difference, Likins still showed his true colors.

If you want to see videos of people pulling 10s, watch on YouTube for free.

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Re: hunt for red treasure
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2011, 07:17:23 PM »
And Andrew you and I can go to sleep every night without feeling remorse. Jack on the other hand made his bed and now shall it  haunt him to the end of his days. End of story!




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Re: hunt for red treasure
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2011, 09:59:12 AM »
I have never seen the movie but those of you that have, what is your thoughts on it?  Just curious.

All politics aside, pretty cool little movie.  Lots of ab/ocean porn.  Some corny poetic narration about the ocean, description of the regs and conditions divers deal with, shark horror stories, and some chat with trophy ab divers.

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Re: hunt for red treasure
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2011, 11:45:17 AM »

All politics aside, pretty cool little movie.  Lots of ab/ocean porn.  Some corny poetic narration about the ocean, description of the regs and conditions divers deal with, shark horror stories, and some chat with trophy ab divers.
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I can't leave this one alone. Define a Trophy ab diver for me if you would please, all politics aside. Is it bench marked that you have gotten at least one ten inch abalone? Is it measured on your ability and knowledge to know where to look for ten abalone even thought you may not yet landed a ten inch abalone for one reason or another, does this count? Is it a person who only take's ten inch abalone EVER!! and nothing less, for I am afraid the data just may indicate otherwise. What if you are an abalone diver whom for some reason are limited to only high use public access places and how does this affect your ability to be a trophy abalone diver? Can you be a trophy abalone diver if you won an abalone diving contest? And how does the fact that there are more ten inch abalone today than there was twenty plus years ago? Does genetics and location and water quality play a role in knowing where to look for ten inch abalone? Or is it you are a friends and friends of friends whom just by chance settled in a very good location with very limited general access for the public as whole and this place just so happens' to be very conductive to producing ten abalone for a lot of biological reason's? Or is just getting to a place where people are not for the most part and for some reason just having the luxury and time of being able to get to less impacted area's with the right conditions? So what is the ruling here? Drum roll please, are the demi gods going to rule?


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Re: hunt for red treasure
« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2011, 01:10:40 PM »

All politics aside, pretty cool little movie.  Lots of ab/ocean porn.  Some corny poetic narration about the ocean, description of the regs and conditions divers deal with, shark horror stories, and some chat with trophy ab divers.

I can't leave this one alone. Define a Trophy ab diver for me if you would please, all politics aside. Is it bench marked that you have gotten at least one ten inch abalone? Is it measured on your ability and knowledge to know where to look for ten abalone even thought you may not yet landed a ten inch abalone for one reason or another, does this count? Is it a person who only take's ten inch abalone EVER!! and nothing less, for I am afraid the data just may indicate otherwise. What if you are an abalone diver whom for some reason are limited to only high use public access places and how does this affect your ability to be a trophy abalone diver? Can you be a trophy abalone diver if you won an abalone diving contest? And how does the fact that there are more ten inch abalone today than there was twenty plus years ago? Does genetics and location and water quality play a role in knowing where to look for ten inch abalone? Or is it you are a friends and friends of friends whom just by chance settled in a very good location with very limited general access for the public as whole and this place just so happens' to be very conductive to producing ten abalone for a lot of biological reason's? Or is just getting to a place where people are not for the most part and for some reason just having the luxury and time of being able to get to less impacted area's with the right conditions? So what is the ruling here? Drum roll please, are the demi gods going to rule?
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Is there something especially pissing you off when people mention trophy divers?  I do get what you're saying btw.
If your focus when ab'ing is all about the size, I guess you're a trophy diver.  That does not mean you deserve any special respect.  Some trophy divers still have poor ethics when it comes to ab'ing.  I know some veteran divers who have never even pulled a 10 that deserve a lot more respect than some guys who pull tens often.

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Re: hunt for red treasure
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2011, 01:47:41 PM »
Hey you do not have to dive private area's  to be a sucessfull trophy hunter most of all my tens including my 2 largest abaloen 11.25 and 2 that almost went 10.5  have come right from state park access That jsut about every one knows of and have dove.
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