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NorCal Underwater Hunters Discussion => Hunting Gear => Topic started by: MATT MATTISON on October 24, 2013, 12:14:47 PM

Title: How to tie a quick release knot
Post by: MATT MATTISON on October 24, 2013, 12:14:47 PM
How to tie a quick release knot. http://ultimatespearfishing.com/site/back-to-basics/view/398/53/2013/07/25/Back_to_Basics_How_to..._Tie_a_Quick_Release_Dyneema_Knot (http://ultimatespearfishing.com/site/back-to-basics/view/398/53/2013/07/25/Back_to_Basics_How_to..._Tie_a_Quick_Release_Dyneema_Knot)
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Title: Re: How to tie a quick release knot
Post by: dustyyoungblood on November 03, 2014, 12:10:16 PM
When Rob Allen visited me earlier this year at Sturgill in Torrance, he had a knot he demonstrated as a substitute for the metal snap clips. You know, the swivel/snaps, we all use to connect our reel line to our shooting line. Rob called that metal snap "jewelry". Ha ha ha ha.

Rob uses a slip knot to connect his reel line to his mono shooting line instead. It's one less part that can fail. And he swears he has been towed around by Marlin and this knot has never come apart. And since it's a slip knot, you can easily untie it to retrieve/untangle/remove the shaft from your fish. and it back on can be easier than  snapping a clip with gloves on your hands.

Here are the notes from RA himself.

"It is easy. Twice around the mainline the fold the tag line in half and push it through. If your hands are occupied holding the fish and spear, you can pull the knot loose with your teeth.
 
Point of interest, if you load this until it breaks, the dyneema will cut through the mono. I have only heard of this once, a guy shot a great white and then climbed into the boat and tied the float line off on the bow. The white dragged the boat  around for a hour while they had lunch.  After an hour they started the motors and put the motors in reverse. After a few minutes they added more power  and the line parted. To increase the knot strength you can wrap the dyneema twice around the mono before wrapping twice around itself."

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Title: Re: How to tie a quick release knot
Post by: jjjjeremy on November 03, 2014, 02:37:20 PM
I wrap twice and put the end through the loop. If you don't, it loosens, and this way is just as easy to undo one handed.



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Title: Re: How to tie a quick release knot
Post by: Rob102 on November 03, 2014, 02:40:13 PM
I use the tuna clip so I can secure the gun to the kayak when I'm stringering fish or for surf launches.

And last time I checked, Rob Allen guns came with a tuna clip on the handle.
Title: Re: How to tie a quick release knot
Post by: jjjjeremy on November 03, 2014, 02:49:31 PM
A tuna clip on your shooting line?
Title: Re: How to tie a quick release knot
Post by: Rob102 on November 03, 2014, 03:43:33 PM
A tuna clip on your shooting line?

OOPS!  No I use a snap.
Title: Re: How to tie a quick release knot
Post by: Rob102 on November 03, 2014, 03:55:20 PM
I don't think I could tie that knot with gloves
Title: Re: How to tie a quick release knot
Post by: phil herranen on November 03, 2014, 04:58:46 PM
problem with a quick release is it releases quickly , often when you dont want it to. if you are going to risk using a knot like that at least put the tag end threw the loop and snug it a little , so if it snags it will not untie   
Title: Re: How to tie a quick release knot
Post by: Rob102 on November 03, 2014, 07:00:19 PM
I tie my wishbones, but not with that slip knot.
Title: Re: How to tie a quick release knot
Post by: dustyyoungblood on November 04, 2014, 08:31:11 AM
problem with a quick release is it releases quickly , often when you dont want it to. if you are going to risk using a knot like that at least put the tag end threw the loop and snug it a little , so if it snags it will not untie

If the tag end is short, it cannot wrap or catch on anything. Besides a crap pinching it or a fish biting it and pulling away there are not many instances where the knot will come away without user intervention.
I am not 100% sold on this concept yet, but I have been testing it.

Title: Re: How to tie a quick release knot
Post by: jjjjeremy on November 04, 2014, 12:30:18 PM
I noticed mine loosened once, which is why I started tucking in the tag end. Really easy to just look at it when you're reloading.
Title: Re: How to tie a quick release knot
Post by: Rob102 on November 04, 2014, 01:01:58 PM
This is easier:

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