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NorCal Underwater Hunters Discussion => Abalone & Fisheries Management => Topic started by: MATT MATTISON on October 09, 2018, 12:54:30 PM

Title: 4th recreational urchin removal event will be November 10-11 at Caspar Beach
Post by: MATT MATTISON on October 09, 2018, 12:54:30 PM
The next recreational urchin removal event will be November 10-11 at Caspar Beach. Dive briefing in the campground parking lot at 8 am Saturday. Remember you will need a fishing license if you want to pull urchin but there are plenty of uses for volunteers on shore. Attendance slumped a little at the last event so let's make a point to be at this one and bring friends. It only works if we have mass numbers of volunteers.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/158992911481142/?fref=nf (https://www.facebook.com/groups/158992911481142/?fref=nf)
Title: Re: 4th recreational urchin removal event will be November 10-11 at Caspar Beach
Post by: TheKeeneroo on October 22, 2018, 10:28:41 AM
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/22/climate/kelp-climate-change-california.html?emc=edit_ca_20181022&nl=california-today&nlid=7681160220181022&te=1 (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/22/climate/kelp-climate-change-california.html?emc=edit_ca_20181022&nl=california-today&nlid=7681160220181022&te=1)
Title: Re: 4th recreational urchin removal event will be November 10-11 at Caspar Beach
Post by: MATT MATTISON on October 22, 2018, 03:39:54 PM
from Josh Russo
were  getting close to the November 10th & 11th removal event at Caspar. The campground has offered free camping for volunteers. Be sure to tell them you're with the removal event when you book your site. They may put us all together or give us individual sites but they need to know you're with us.
Title: Re: 4th recreational urchin removal event will be November 10-11 at Caspar Beach
Post by: Stoney on November 06, 2018, 10:44:51 PM
https://cdfgnews.wordpress.com/2018/05/15/fish-and-game-commission-adopts-emergency-regulations-to-increase-purple-sea-urchin-bag-limit-in-sonoma-and-mendocino-counties/

 So are we back at 35 limit or was there an extension I’m not finding for the 20 pounds?

Nick
Title: Re: 4th recreational urchin removal event will be November 10-11 at Caspar Beach
Post by: jcool3 on November 07, 2018, 01:33:44 AM
What's the result difference between taking sea urchins and smashing them with a hammer?  The hammer
smash has been done in SoCal for years.
Title: Re: 4th recreational urchin removal event will be November 10-11 at Caspar Beach
Post by: Joshua R. on November 07, 2018, 06:30:20 AM
https://cdfgnews.wordpress.com/2018/05/15/fish-and-game-commission-adopts-emergency-regulations-to-increase-purple-sea-urchin-bag-limit-in-sonoma-and-mendocino-counties/ (https://cdfgnews.wordpress.com/2018/05/15/fish-and-game-commission-adopts-emergency-regulations-to-increase-purple-sea-urchin-bag-limit-in-sonoma-and-mendocino-counties/)

 So are we back at 35 limit or was there an extension I’m not finding for the 20 pounds?

Nick
They extended it 90 days which will bring us into January and in February the formal regulation will go into effect and raise the limit to 40 gallons.

http://www.fgc.ca.gov/regulations/2018/#29_11_2 (http://www.fgc.ca.gov/regulations/2018/#29_11_2)
Title: Re: 4th recreational urchin removal event will be November 10-11 at Caspar Beach
Post by: gear.eye on November 07, 2018, 06:47:13 AM
What's the result difference between taking sea urchins and smashing them with a hammer?  The hammer
smash has been done in SoCal for years.

Great question, I was also wondering the same thing for a while now.

I am no scientist [but an engineer], and I'm just pulling ideas from my behind, so bear with me.

I realized that sea urchins reproduce by releasing eggs and sperm cells in the water, ie external fertilization. Could it be that crushing them with a hammer may actually lead to an exaggerated assisted external fertilization?

Imagine all the gonads flowing freely in the area that you just mass murdered a ton of urchins. I think removing them may be a more permanent solution, but like I said,  I'm just pulling ideas from my behind.
Title: Re: 4th recreational urchin removal event will be November 10-11 at Caspar Beach
Post by: Stoney on November 07, 2018, 07:02:23 AM
https://cdfgnews.wordpress.com/2018/05/15/fish-and-game-commission-adopts-emergency-regulations-to-increase-purple-sea-urchin-bag-limit-in-sonoma-and-mendocino-counties/ (https://cdfgnews.wordpress.com/2018/05/15/fish-and-game-commission-adopts-emergency-regulations-to-increase-purple-sea-urchin-bag-limit-in-sonoma-and-mendocino-counties/)

 So are we back at 35 limit or was there an extension I’m not finding for the 20 pounds?

Nick
They extended it 90 days which will bring us into January and in February the formal regulation will go into effect and raise the limit to 40 gallons.

http://www.fgc.ca.gov/regulations/2018/#29_11_2 (http://www.fgc.ca.gov/regulations/2018/#29_11_2)
awesome thanks and see you Saturday
Title: Re: 4th recreational urchin removal event will be November 10-11 at Caspar Beach
Post by: jcool3 on November 07, 2018, 08:28:39 AM
What's the result difference between taking sea urchins and smashing them with a hammer?  The hammer
smash has been done in SoCal for years.

Great question, I was also wondering the same thing for a while now.

I am no scientist [but an engineer], and I'm just pulling ideas from my behind, so bear with me.

I realized that sea urchins reproduce by releasing eggs and sperm cells in the water, ie external fertilization. Could it be that crushing them with a hammer may actually lead to an exaggerated assisted external fertilization?

Imagine all the gonads flowing freely in the area that you just mass murdered a ton of urchins. I think removing them may be a more permanent solution, but like I said,  I'm just pulling ideas from my behind.

Certainly a tricky question. Not sure about the legality of smashing urchins.  Maybe the commercial urchin guys
don't want this.  But in kelp forest barrens, the urchins are likely small, not really edible ... In a kelp forest crisis overrun with urchins, this may be a viable option.  One can smash a hell of lot more urchins than removing them.